{"id":616,"date":"2020-11-24T23:00:17","date_gmt":"2020-11-25T05:00:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/?p=616"},"modified":"2020-11-24T23:00:17","modified_gmt":"2020-11-25T05:00:17","slug":"do-writers-need-a-degree-did-they-ever-does-anybody","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/2020\/11\/24\/do-writers-need-a-degree-did-they-ever-does-anybody\/","title":{"rendered":"Do Writers Need a Degree?   (Did They Ever?)  (Does Anybody?)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the pedantic fashion of those with degrees, I will start off with qualifications of the topic&#8230;it depends&#8230;on what the writer&#8217;s writing, what the writer intends to do with what the writer is writing, what outside sources the writer might need to explore to cover the chosen\u00a0 subject&#8230;and which degree we&#8217;re talking about.\u00a0\u00a0 The value of any degree lies not just in whether you can find a job with it, but in what knowledge base and skills it can make available, the expertise of those who supervise the program,\u00a0 and the network the writer can later access for pointers to more knowledge and skills and people who may be helpful.\u00a0 There have been times in SF, for instance, when a writer possessing a degree in a science valued by a particular editor had much less trouble getting a first book accepted&#8230;and those editors would have been far less impressed by an MFA from Iowa&#8217;s famous creative writing program. \u00a0 Writers of military fiction benefit both directly (with the knowledge obtained) and indirectly (with editorial trust in their experience) if they have served in the military, and the longer the service the better.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 A story (speaking of fiction writers) still has to be a good story, but the relevant degree gives an editor some assurance that the content is more likely to be accurate.<\/p>\n<p>Some years ago, on a panel at a convention on research for writers, I commented that any degree from a good university usually gave a graduate some experience in picking out good sources from bad ones&#8230;that formal study could and often did include learning how to do the research efficiently and well.\u00a0 This irritated another writer on the panel who thought I was dissing their work&#8211;this writer had no degree, and had written excellent books on a difficult period in one Euro nation&#8217;s history.\u00a0 I wasn&#8217;t dissing their work&#8211;they were brilliant books&#8211;but I remembered hearing this writer talk about the struggles of finding out the real facts until she had spent considerable unproductive time on it, while working on the first book.\u00a0\u00a0 If you are working with primary material (talking to the people who did the thing you&#8217;re writing about, with access to their contemporary notes, photos, etc.) then the ability to discern\u00a0 which of your sources has the most accurate memory and the will to share it is something universities don&#8217;t teach.\u00a0 But if you&#8217;re using written sources, then training in hunting down and recognizing the best sources can save you time and give a better foundation for the fiction.<\/p>\n<p>As we all know, you can&#8217;t go online and accept the first thing you read about a topic as true, reliable, worthwhile.\u00a0\u00a0 I hang out in a lot of horse-related blogs, vlogs, and e-groups of various kinds.\u00a0\u00a0 Five horse people&#8230;at least six opinions about conformation, equitation, grooming tools, training methods, how to braid a mane, horse breeds, horse colors&#8230;and so on.\u00a0 You can find beautifully (expensively) designed websites promoting expensive (and bad) tools.\u00a0 Advertising $50,000 horses I wouldn&#8217;t have if you gave them to me.\u00a0\u00a0 And that&#8217;s only horses.<\/p>\n<p>Personal experience is the best research, as long as you don&#8217;t overgeneralize (hard not to sometimes.)\u00a0\u00a0 If you&#8217;ve trained dogs to a high standard in Agility, for instance, especially if you&#8217;ve worked with a variety of breeds, then you don&#8217;t need to do research to write about a fictional dog trainer and dogs of a breed you&#8217;ve trained for that competition&#8230;you have that experience in hand.\u00a0 If you&#8217;ve done construction work, spent six months\u00a0 on a road crew handling the heavy equipment&#8230;you don&#8217;t need a degree in it; experience is the only way to know the peculiarities of the machines you used.\u00a0 You know what it feels like to reach for *that* lever, change the pressure of your foot *there,* and so on.\u00a0\u00a0 If you&#8217;ve done basic home cooking for years, you know the smells, textures, tastes of your ingredients both raw and being cooked.\u00a0 Your hands automatically grip an onion and a ripe tomato with different pressure.\u00a0 You don&#8217;t need a degree to become a very good cook&#8230;though it will be a faster process if you&#8217;re being taught.<\/p>\n<p>I am glad for my university experiences, all three of them.\u00a0 I&#8217;m glad I had times of learning intensely, almost overwhelmed by the flood of new knowledge, as in my years at Rice University.\u00a0\u00a0 I am glad I had times of formal learning that were less intense&#8230;.and glad I had times where my learning was entirely self-directed.\u00a0 And the real motivation for that was not just that I was born curious and able to learn, but a specific meeting with a specific person.\u00a0\u00a0 I went back to Houston on leave, and visited my favorite professor, Dr. K.F. Drew, then chair of the history department.\u00a0 As we chatted, she told me that one thing about meeting past pupils sorrowed her&#8230;that some of them, when she visited their home, or talked to them, had stopped learning.\u00a0 They had no books more recent than their old textbooks; they were undoubtedly learning something, how to work for this corporation maybe, but it was something so much easier she felt their brains were atrophying.\u00a0 And I who admired her so much, determined not to be like that&#8211;to keep learning.\u00a0 But how, if I couldn&#8217;t take college classes all the time?<\/p>\n<p>I came up with a plan for myself, a plan I stuck to for decades and actually quit on only when my writing schedule got so tight that I was unable to get enough sleep.\u00a0 Over the years, it changed how I thought about learning.\u00a0 By some fortunate guess, I decided to\u00a0 schedule it like college&#8211;two semesters, and the summer either off or a deep dive for summer school, about 8 weeks.\u00a0 I decided I would go into something new of the academic type and some new skill or practical knowledge, and stick with it for two semesters, trying for a level of knowledge equal to a Rice course.\u00a0 Then switch to another new &#8220;subject&#8221; unless I&#8217;d fallen in love with it, in which case I could take another &#8220;course&#8221; of it.\u00a0\u00a0 There is a vast amount of stuff to learn&#8230;stuff I was already curious about and stuff I hadn&#8217;t found yet.\u00a0\u00a0 Over the years I sometimes went to night school, when I wasn&#8217;t actually pursuing a degree.\u00a0 Studied another foreign language (technical German&#8211;it didn&#8217;t stick either),\u00a0 learned to use field guides to study local botany (Virginia is not like south Texas!!), learned to backpack, camp in snow, make jams and jellies from wild fruits, learned to garden for food, with R- built a boat, continued to study history, anthropology, read real science journals weekly.\u00a0 If I was in a degree program, that counted as my academic work, but the need to pick up new practical, physical skills was met by sewing, needlepoint, knitting, gardening, raising chickens for eggs, identifying all the local plants and as many birds as I could see everywhere, revisiting my geology classes and applying those to local geology wherever I was&#8230;.then learning to ride &#8220;English&#8221; and jump, learning about learning theory, and all the time building the connections between things that I&#8217;d begun earlier.\u00a0 In less than ten years, it became natural to look for new things to learn about, to reach out, as children do, to anything that caught my interest&#8230;.because learning is fun, not just useful, but also useful, and the doors and windows swing open&#8230;and the writer-mind is fed.\u00a0 Would I have done that without Drew&#8217;s comments?\u00a0 I don&#8217;t know&#8230;probably not in as structured a way as I set up for myself.\u00a0\u00a0 But I&#8217;m sure glad I did.<\/p>\n<p>And now the next front is on us&#8211;the thunder and rain and I will shut this down.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the pedantic fashion of those with degrees, I will start off with qualifications of the topic&#8230;it depends&#8230;on what the writer&#8217;s writing, what the writer intends to do with what the writer is writing, what outside sources the writer might need to explore to cover the chosen\u00a0 subject&#8230;and which degree we&#8217;re talking about.\u00a0\u00a0 The value <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/2020\/11\/24\/do-writers-need-a-degree-did-they-ever-does-anybody\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16,10],"tags":[17,9,7],"class_list":["post-616","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-life-beyond-writing","category-the-writing-life","tag-life-beyond-writing","tag-research","tag-the-writing-life"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/616"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=616"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/616\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":617,"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/616\/revisions\/617"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=616"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=616"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/elizabethmoon.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=616"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}